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What is the human cost of conflict?

Saturday, April 18, 2009 - FEATURES

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Israel. Palestine. Conflict. It’s a decades-long battle of power and sovereign rights. But before you get up in arms defending one nation over another, consider that this video, ‘Closed Zone’ (created by Israeli human rights group, Gisha), puts a cartoon-like spin on the Gaza Strip blockade. And by doing so, it reminds us that there is a human element to all of this inhumanity.

In my opinion, this film suggests that it’s possible to disregard the Biblical warfare and take off the classifications of “Israeli” and “Palestinian.” If you do that, you are left with nothing but people. Human freakin’ beings.

Is it possible, after years of bitter bloodshed, for Israelis and Palestinians to remember the human side of the conflict?

:: conflict management by Lindsay McComb

Ahmed9s

Wonderful video, There is always a human element to all of this inhumanity...

It reminds me of, "Panchi nadiya pawan k jhonkey...", a Hindi movie song which cries about what have we gained by being a Human?! Considering the fact that birds, rivers and breezes do not need to follow any boundaries... it is but only for the humans..?!

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Luch

War brings no thought of peace but sorrow and hatred. Nobody gains from it but they just loose what they have. I feel that we should oppose the thought of war and embrace the thought of peace. I agree with most of the replies to this video.People should realise tht we are all made out of the same dust.Hence there is no purpose to have war. =)

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Russell

After awhile each side loses their soul, all is hatred, bloodshed and it is perpetrated. The lives of all are destroyed, each can't see the other as a fellow human being. Eventually all will be destroyed and all will become dust.

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GusGo

@llessur Fairy tales! One side , both side , no side! Israel is not lie, go to a travel agent he will tell you! you can even go there.
Israel is an actual place with a lot of diferent groups and many problems. World War II had a lot more to do with it than the Bible , really. Your interpretion of the Bible may be very ok!, it is close to mine in a way. but I don.t beliave in mickey mouse either and i am not at war with Orlando, Florida. Even though, they were people living there before him!


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llessur

I think the nation of Isreal is a lie conjured up by some levite priests after the Babylonian captivity, they didn't want the world to know how pathetic their history was, so they made one up. Moses is a term used to describe an initiate in the high Egyptian mystery schools. The god of the old testament is a homocidal maniac, demanding the death of men,women, children and dogs. This 2,000 year waste of life is sll based on hearsay and story-telling. The israelis will never admit that Abraham, Lot, David and Solomon ( which incidently is three separate names for the Sun) not to mention Jesus truly has any factual, scientific proof of their existence and life.
I will side with the palestinians before i'll believe those fairy-tales.

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Tamato

@GusGo I agree. The situation is extremely complex. Hell, it's very hard as an outsider to sort-of pick a side without noticing that you're probably only doing so due to incomplete info from both points of view.

Hence, my very simple solution: Make war seem stupid. Entrench the rest of the world in peace for long enough and people have to back down. Well, that, or have a substantially higher standard of living for both sides. That way they get too comfortable to keep up all the hate.

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GusGo

Obviously, the human cost of international conflicts are huge, there is not doubt about it. Sadly, millions of human beings have dead thanks to many pointless fights all over history and all around the world. Even though, in some cases, different sides had legitimated reasons to jump to one, like defense, for example. For the most part, most organized large scale violence is consequence of the symbiotic and relationship between very powerful (but small) groups and the insecure impersonal large mass.
How this conflict regardless the huge human cost can get so big and for so long?
Well, advance technology, long distance communications, the out-group- in-group phenomenon, the lack or excess of resources, division of labor/ specialization , overpopulation, authoritarian values, instable power structures, and uncertainty avoidance (black or white) attitudes are a deadly recipe.
In the case of Israel, there are not simple answers! I used to live there. It is a very complex situation over there. Hippy talk is not enough. To try to understand the conflict one have to read a lot of the history. I am still reading after many years. There are many issues and many of them need pretty creative solutions.

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artsymcfartsy

I think it is possible if all parties would remember that the point of all major religions is humanity's love for one another.

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Tamato

@Lilly Thanks! I said before that the solution is to promote unification everywhere else. You have to give people examples of hurdles others have overcome, and then show them the peace and prosperity that comes of that.

Is it realistic? I think so. For example, what if Iraq became a state that was peaceful, unified, and democratic? No more religious schisms, no more dictatorships or factions. That is something that is happening in the world today, where the might of the world's largest superpower is spending so much time and effort on seeing that through.

I don't think human conflicts like this will entirely be gone in our lifetime, but certainly many of the ones we know today will. We've made a lot of progress these past 50 years, and just like how the United States seems to be in love with going green, the world can fall in love going peace.

Our communications are amazingly advanced. People relate their thoughts and feelings so easily that I just can't see people having much of a prospect of ignoring it all for long. The more you talk about it, the more it'll spread, and that's how you set an example for approaching peace.

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kjo

@dixventures This is the crux of the whole issue. Actually, let's boil it down to one word: GREED. It's why the US is in Iraq; it's why the US keeps supporting Israel...it just goes on and on. Frankly, I wish the Palestinians and Jews would get over themselves just so I could travel to Israel. I guess tourism dollars aren't as valuable as dead Palestinians though.
I don't think this conflict will end anytime soon. The kids are raised with hatred and the cycle just perpetuates itself. Very sad indeed.

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